Reparations. Two Questions

OK Folks, here is our topic today. Two questions.

As a white US Citizen, do you think you should pay reparations to all black US citizens because of the practice of slavery in the US prior to the Civil war?

If your answer is yes, then should the Democratic Party be held accountable as well for being the party of slavery prior to the Civil War?

These two questions have now come to the forefront.

If you are going to hold all white US citizens accountable for slavery, then you cannot exempt the Democratic Party from the same history.

It also works the other way. If you aren’t responsible for reparations, then how can the Democratic Party be responsible for its past history?

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/3879164-florida-lawmakers-bill-would-get-rid-of-the-democratic-party/

Florida Democrats took on tremendous losses last election cycle, and now a Republican state lawmaker wants to eliminate the party entirely with a bill filed Tuesday.

“The Ultimate Cancel Act” (SB 1248), sponsored by state Sen. Blaise Ingoglia (R-Spring Hill), would cancel the filings of any political party that supported slavery during the Civil War.

“The Democrat party adopted pro-slavery stances in their party platforms and this bill says that if you have done that in the past, then the Secretary of State shall de-certify and get rid of the party,” Ingoglia said. 

If the controversial bill were approved, voters registered with any “canceled” party would become non-party-affiliated voters.

“It would be interesting to find out if those voters who are now de-certified choose to go back to the party now that they know that they were the party that was advocating for the issue of slavery,” Ingoglia said.

Any “canceled” party could register again, but the name of the organization must be substantially different from the name of any other party that was previously registered with the department.

The proposal is drawing widespread criticism from Democrats.

“Shame on the Republican Party for initiating legislation of this magnitude. This is what a dictator does,” newly elected Florida Democratic Party chair Nikki Fried said. 

 “It’s a complete and absolute abuse, and it’s unconstitutional. This bill will go nowhere. It is meritless. It deserves zero airtime and frankly, it’s a distraction from the Republicans’ failed policies,” House Minority Leader Fentrice Driskell said.

When asked if he thought the bill would get any traction in the upcoming session, Ingoglia said, “I guess we’re gonna see, aren’t we?”

Ingoglia said he has not spoken to the governor or legislative leaders about the bill.

The Florida Democratic Party issued the following statement:

“Presenting a bill that would disenfranchise 5 million voters is both unconstitutional and unserious. Under Ron DeSantis, Senator Ingoglia is using his office to push bills that are nothing more than publicity stunts instead of focusing on the issues that matter most to Floridians, such as reforming property insurance, addressing housing affordability and combating climate change.

“The sooner DeSantis and his puppets in the legislature learn that Florida is a Democratic Republic and not a Banana Republic, the better it will be for all Floridians.”

The governor’s office declined to comment on the legislation. Legislative leaders in the House and Senate have yet to express interest in taking up the bill during the upcoming session. If this were to become law, it would take effect in July 2023.

Incidentally, the Republican and Democratic parties didn’t always hold the stances they do today. 

The Republican Party organized in 1792 and was “the direct ancestor of the present Democratic Party.”

Essentially, the parties switched platforms over time.  between the 1860s and 1936,” the (Democratic) party of small government became the party of big government, and the (Republican) party of big government became committed to curbing federal power.”

https://okcfox.com/news/nation-world/florida-gop-introduces-ultimate-cancel-act-state-democratic-party-blaise-ingoglia-senator-representative-slavery-involuntary-servitude-politics-division-elections-immediately-cancel-filings

by LENNY COHEN | The National Desk

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (TND) — The Democratic Party is all but dead in Florida — no Democrat holds a statewide office — and now a state senator who was chairman of the Florida Republican Party is trying to kill it entirely.

 As I state earlier, Sen. Blaise Ingoglia’s Bill, SB1248 — “The Ultimate Cancel Act” —“requires the Division of Elections to immediately cancel the filings of a political party if certain conditions exist.”

Among those conditions: “If the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude.”

Southern Democrats wanted to continue slavery during the Civil War. Florida seceded from the U.S. when Republican Abraham Lincoln became president. That was well over 150 years ago.

If passed, the new law would take effect July 1 and the Florida Democratic Party would have to reregister;

by filing a certificate showing a copy of its constitution, bylaws, and rules and regulations.

Also, “The name of the organization must be substantially different from the name of any other party previously registered with the department.

And, “The filing may not be submitted later than 6 months before any election in which the political party seeking to register wishes to nominate candidates for public office.

Ingoglia is quoted as saying, For years now, leftist activists have been trying to ‘cancel’ people and companies for things they have said or done in the past,” Ingoglia explained. “This includes the removal of statues and memorials and the renaming of buildings. Using this standard, it would be hypocritical not to cancel the Democrat Party itself for the same reason.

Well folks, there it is. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of our elected officials, just like you and I have been saying on our previous shows.

So now let’s look at the flip side to this issue of accountability.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/40

Sponsor:Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18] (Introduced 01/04/2021)
Committees:House – Judiciary

Summary for H.R.40. 

Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans Act

This bill establishes the Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African Americans. The commission shall examine slavery and discrimination in the colonies and the United States from 1619 to the present and recommend appropriate remedies.

The commission shall identify (1) the role of the federal and state governments in supporting the institution of slavery, (2) forms of discrimination in the public and private sectors against freed slaves and their descendants, and (3) lingering negative effects of slavery on living African Americans and society.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/19/congress-reparations-bill-slave-descendants-1370402

Heather Caygle contributed to this report.

In January of 2021, House Democratic leaders committed to a floor vote for legislation to study reparations for the descendants of slaves — a historic move for the black community after the party sidestepped the debate for decades.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told reporters that Democrats plan to vote on the bill, which he said would “look at how we try to compensate for the extraordinary racism and denigration” that African Americans have long faced.

“I think that’s a very serious issue and we need to look at it,” Hoyer said.

The bill, drafted by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), would create a commission to look at a “national apology” for slavery and discrimination against African Americans, potentially including compensation.

Jackson Lee’s bill received a hearing in the House Judiciary Committee — the chamber’s first hearing on reparations in a decade.

The proposal is largely backed by the Congressional Black Caucus, though some senior members fear it could alienate moderate voters and the idea has divided the caucus along generational lines.

House passage of the bill would be a momentous event, though it’s unlikely to be considered in the Republican-controlled Senate; Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has rejected the idea of reparations.

“I don’t think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago for whom none us currently living are responsible is a good idea,” McConnell said. “We’ve tried to deal with our original sin of slavery by fighting a civil war, by passing landmark civil rights legislation. We’ve elected an African-American president.”

House Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries blasted McConnell on Wednesday, saying he has “zero credibility” on the issue.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818693/California-moves-closer-paying-reparations-black-people-task-force-decides-to.html

By HELENA KELLY FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

Black Californians could be in line for $360,000 each as part of the state’s plan to dish out ‘reparations’ to descendants of slaves.   

Secretary of State Shirley Weber told a meeting today that California must ‘admit its sins and change the narrative,’ to pave the way for initiatives similar to ones already being considered in other states

But there has been no detail about how the $650 billion project will be funded amid concerns over California’s growing deficit which is expected to worsen due to a jobs blood bath in its tax-generating Silicon Valley.

A nine-member ‘reparations taskforce’ was set up in 2020 by California Governor Gavin Newsom following nationwide protests for racial justice in the wake of the killing of George Floyd. 

Previous estimates suggested the payments could be as much as $220,000 each for the state’s 1.8 million black citizens. 

But in a meeting on Friday, the taskforce indicated the cheques could actually be as high as $350,000 as they seek to compensate Black citizens for generations of discriminatory practices. 

There have been difficulties from the start around how the state could accurately measure the harms suffered by its black citizens.

And local residents voiced concerns about how the money would be paid in practice. 

One man wearing a top hat told the meeting that the money must be made in cash payments direct to black citizens.

‘There is only one thing that would stimulate this economy – and I need you to spread the word what you heard – and that one thing is capital, money, reparations,’ he told the meeting.

‘That will stimulate the economy for the millions of blacks in California.

‘There is only one thing that would stop our children busting into these liquor stores and grocery stores, stealing junk food and different things and that’s reparations.’

In California, white families are roughly six times wealthier than their black counterparts. 

The taskforce is considering a model which would use the state’s racial wealth gap to measure how much descendants of slaves had lost.

A conservative estimate would mean the state owed $636.7 billion to its black citizens.

The taskforce has until July 1 to publish its recommendations and outline exactly how the reparations will be made. 

It will then be up to lawmakers to decide whether to adopt them. 

The idea of giving reparations to black citizens has become popular across America, with cities including Boston, Massachusetts, St Paul, Minnesota, and St Louis, Missouri, as well as the California cities, San Francisco and Los Angeles, among those to have set up similar task forces. 

Evanston, Illinois, in 2021 became the first US city to provide reparations to its Black residents, including giving housing grants.

So, there it is folks. Back to our original questions.

  1. As a white US Citizen, do you think you should pay reparations to all black US citizens because of the practice of slavery in the US prior to the Civil war?
  2. If your answer is yes, then should the Democratic Party be held accountable as well for being the party of slavery prior to the Civil War?

I personally think both political parties have lost their minds. If this nonsense continues, where will it stop? Shall we go all the way back to the Crusades and hold all Christians accountable for their war on Muslims? If so, do we owe all Muslims reparations?